[b]Opportunities given to poly grads to enter a local uni.[/

last SG · 2003-02-22T22:52:26+00:00

three cheers! at last! someone who knows what the real world is all about! totally agree with u on this point... i've known 'n' level grads who've made goo...

shock1234 SG

this is wat i heard from lecturers las time. remember on my first year before the sch starts, during the meeting wiz mentors. remember got two mentors said that poly students r poor at certain subjects and tends complain abt it. that's juz one of incidents

one thing i noe is that quite many poly students is top of the batch during the convocation.

sgboy2004 SG

the world is like tat 1, some pull string lor

shock1234 SG

issit call backdoor ah

sgboy2004 SG

sort of lah, but your grades cannot be too bad la

anatasia SG

but then those of u whose results got As & Bs (not bad 1), may i know what polys r u from???
Is it true that local unis show preference to SP and NP?????

sgboy2004 SG

why not go MOE to ask for some statistics... r u doing a thesis or ???

or go to the statistical board to get the info.

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hareyizu SG

what my dad told me is that NP and SP have a more proven track record u see...since they are the oldest 2 polys ard...hence better impression....

Eiizumi SG

PAP government gave us hope saying there’s gonna be a fourth university for Poly students, now its gone…

Eiizumi SG

This judgement is erroneous. Not all courses are so easily to get an "A" or "B". Some are very subjective.

Why people join bonded scholarships then rejects it?
This is the case. Not enough universities. Go overseas U lah. No money, go for scholarships loh.

CX SG

they were concerned with the reputation of the uni... it would have an uphill task competing with nus and ntu and initial batches may face discrimination from employers... just like ntu when it was first established...

now, by proposing to open a new nus campus for poly grads, the grads can have degrees awarded by nus. isn't that better?

anatasia SG

hopefully that is true that nus will be admitting more poly students….............

foga SG

yeah rite, more poly students....
guess it's more of a "slightly more poly students with better results"

for most people, especially poly students, to be able to study locally means they could use cpf to pay hence one less burden to worry about.but seems like te gov got other ideas.

my suggestion, take a study loan from a bank, DBS or OCBC,study overseas.

cheers to us all diploma holders.

CX SG

frankly, i feel that if one is very interested in a uni education in a local uni, DON'T GO POLY...

its no secret that the 2 local unis take in mostly 'a' level students... why should it come as a surprise to poly people only AFTER they enter poly?

i mean no offence to the rest of you... but i've heard a lot of nonsense from some so-called educated people recently...

basically, they complain that they can't get into the local uni with their diploma and complain that the gov't is stone-walling them and the system is not giving them a chance...

so i asked them why did they choose poly when 'a' levels was a more direct way and guess what they said... i quote: "aiya 'a' level very cheem ah... must study gee pee, must study chinese... i'll rather learn something useful..."

they knew from the start that they won't stand a chance unless they aced everything for 6 sems, but that only bothered them AFTER they got their diploma...

bear in mind that a poly grad will command a much higher starting salary than an a-level holder cos the poly grad is seen to have finished his education while the 'a' level is seen to have stopped halfway.

what happens to 'a' level students who didn't make it to uni then? they also jia lat what.

poly grads are not the only ones disadvantaged by the system. if a uni degree adds value to a worker, then i think the gov't should consider liberalising entry requirements across the board for ALL singaporeans: 'a' level holders, private certificate holders, mature students AND poly diploma holders. not just ONE of the groups.

putey SG

there's always a percentage of students capacity opened for poly grads. The only thing is the number is small.

However, comments made on the lack of theoretical knowledge of poly grads seems to be a bit off. In the working world, you cannot depend on just theoretical knowledge, how much theoretical stuff can u squeeze in your under-utilised brain and remember them for life. How much of this knowledge can you efffectively apply on practical situations? Well, i am not saying theories are 'nothing', but i am trying to emphasize that sometimes, you need a good mix to get things moving in the right direction.

CX SG

i've always felt that in education, knowledge is over-rated. what matters is the mind-expanding experience and the process of thinking which u go through.

so basically, i think that poly and uni basically gives people different types of experience. it takes both types of people to get the world moving.

but it would seem to me, that poly grads love to hate uni grads, but also want to become them at the same time Very Happy

sigh sigh... the ironies of life... Mr. Green

rudyiskandar SG

Yeah, similarly, I have also come across many local university graduates(NUS and NTU) in my workplace who despite scoring tons of A's from secondary to uni, fails to solve simple everyday task assigned to them. A common excuse from them are: "we are'nt taught these in our uni"

rudyiskandar SG

yeah...and it seems to me that there is this group of uni grads who's pretty determined that local uni accepts only A level students. Cos they think that poly grad may taint the reputation of their uni.
Or shall I say that they are afraid to face up to the truth that a poly grad generally performs better than their A-level counterparts in the uni. Wink

sigh sigh...the selfishness of mankind.... Laughing

CX SG

aiya please lah... local unis take in so many undeserving foreigners these days, i think most would prefer these places went to locals, 'A' levels or otherwise.

i frankly don't give a crap how undergrads got in a uni, be it poly or 'A' levels. the point is, the current system now is more in favour of 'A' level students so people who are seriously determined to get into uni should take 'A' levels.

why go to poly and then complain that the local uni won't accept them? Mr. Green

eskyzone SG

Agree with wat CX had write. u are the one who selected the path can not complain abt other.. Confused

CX SG

i think "we aren't taught this so we dunno" is a weak argument used by intellectually weak individuals. i've heard it said by a poly grad myself Mr. Green so its not institution specific... weak people come out of BOTH uni and poly... no need to split hair on this point.

the thing is, does one consider oneself to be fully trained to execute upon graduation or does one consider oneself to be only trained to learn upon graduation? i consider myself to be the latter.

i'm not trained to tackle the millions of specific problems that could pop up in the industrial or commercial workpace... get real... no one is. that takes experience. who has rich and relevant experience immediately upon graduation?

i guess thats something employers have to bear in mind as well... schools don't teach us everything we need to know. the most important thing everyone, poly or uni has to learn, is adaptation and initiative. thats what'll get u thru life, not that pathetic piece of paper.

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